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Sunday, March 20, 2016

The Problem we all Live with

The Problem We all Live with
Part I & II
March 20, 2015


"I think it's important to point out that it is not that something magical happens when black kids sit in a classroom next to white kids. It's not that suddenly a switch turns on and they get intelligence, or wanting the desire to learn when they're with white kids. What integration does is it gets black kids in the same facilities as white kids. And therefore, it gets them access to the same things that those kids get-- quality teachers and quality instruction." Nikole Hannah-Jones

~Nikole goes on to explain that when desegregation began and children were beginning to be in class with other kids of a different color, nothing changed between the grades they got or how they acted. The African American kids didn't automatically jump into the same activities as the white kids because they didn't know how, so many were behind and lacked certain cognitive and learning skills. However, the desegregation was a step at trying to change that, trying to give the African American kids a chance to learn as much as any child could and have the same advantages or facilities to go to for help. I think this quote demonstrates how some people just assumed that desegregation didn't just get all colored children in the same room, but gave all children the same opportunity and ability to achieve great things.

"Those kids have greater educational needs. They're more stressed out. They have a bunch of disadvantages. And when you put a lot of kids like that together in one classroom , studies show, it doesn't go well." Ira Glass

~Ira explains also that putting all the children in one classroom right off the bat and jumping right into lessons and learning won't work. First of all, not all the children are going to get along or talk to each other and interact, it's something new. Also, bringing together African American children with Latino children and white children in one class leaves the teacher/s with a problem, not everyone is at the same learning level. So that means that either children who are excelling will be bored and staring at the wall because the teacher has to slow down and reteach some things. Or, the children that aren't caught up and have problems in certain areas, won't understand and won't be able to complete the work because the rest of the class has moved on. It's sad, that even though it was a good thing, to desegregate, it probably caused a lot of problems at first for children and their learning potential.

"So this is a thing that happens with segregation. Once you get around people who you haven't been around before, you become just super aware of their race and your race. And is that thing happening right now because of race? Or is that because you're white? Is that because you're from a different part of the country or a small town? Or are you just weird?" Chana Joffe-walt

~Chana Joffe-walt explains that after going through segregation and being either a part of the colored population or white population, you are so used to the old "norm" of looking at people by their color rather than but their skill, personality or anything else. You begin to wonder about things even more after desegregation, like she said "Is it because I'm white?" or maybe "Is it because I'm black?" and its true, many people probably experienced this for awhile after the desegregation began. Some people out there didn't care that the country was changing for the good and there are still racists out there now that will continue to judge people by the color of their skin rather than for who they are. And it's tough to get over because some people grew up in a segregated community and were raised by their parents a certain way and taught to act the way they do around people with skin color different from them. But for all those who did go with the flow and learn to treat people equally because they ARE equal probably feel a lot better about themselves if they once did live in a secreted community and changed for the good.


 I thought this picture would get a laugh out of everyone

Questions/Comments/Points To Share:
I feel as if this reading and all the things I've discussed and what these audio's talk about is how the process of desegregation affected children in both good and bad ways. In a way it relates to McIntosh as a counter argument because she says that "whites" aren't told not to recognize their privilege in society but way back when, during segregation, they were told TO look at the privileges and advantages white people got over African Americans and use it. Its crazy how at one point white children weren't even allowed to talk to or play with a colored child just because of their skin, when in reality, children don't care about skin color. they care about playing on the swings or having a tea party. Children are taught everything by their parents and who surrounds them, so the only reason children back then didn't want to associate with someone with different color skin than them, is because their parents told them not to, and I think that is completely horrific. Obviously I never lived in a place where people were segregated so I don't know how it would have been but I really hope my parents would have the decency to let me talk to and play with whoever I wanted, whether the other children be black or white.


  1. Love your pictures! Especially the first one! As young children, the parents control everything...who we talk to, who we hang out with, what we do, etc. So the "parents told them not to" hang out with people of different skin colors like you said. I think the same thing as your last sentence. Coming from Smithfield, there were maybe 5 African American students in the whole school district. I would hope that my parents would have been accepting if there were more to let me play with them and not be racist.

  2. I think the last quote you chose really relates to this class. We are learning to see race rather than ignore it, and I think that is what she is talking about. Once students began to be integrated, they started to acknowledge more often that there were people who looked different from them. I completely agree with you when you talked about how children don't care about skin color. A white preschooler doesn't see his black friend as "his black friend". He just sees him as his friend. I agree that it's not until parents start to teach their children that opinions change.

  3. Good blog using quotes and bringing up the point that when black and white students are in the same classroom together better results occur. It was important to note that there are disadvantages in the black students schools because it is forcing all students who more often than not face poverty being put in one place with the same issues. Good points to share and discussion of how we in society are conditioned a certain way to view others.

  4. Going along with Ariana, I also really liked your pictures! The last picture I think is really important. All these issues of people being racist has gone on for so long. Where in 2016 and are still facing these issues. People still see skin color as a thing that separates people.I think you had good quotes and I think you explained them in great detail. Good Job